Reply to 2 classmates for each forum. You must explain briefly (200-250 words) In your replies, challenge your classmates on the clarity and logic of their answers to the pastor. Include a biblical worldview. You are required to include at least one reference in each reply. Remember to use APA formatting.
This is a urgent assignment….I need this completed to 11/3/2019 by 8pm eastern standard time
Charles Post:The idea of integrating psychology and theology brings about many thoughts and feelings. In the case of this pastor, he chooses to believe Jay Adam’s statement which is faulty in and of itself. The problem is with the statement is that if a psychologist is sinful people attempt to help sinful people how are they any different than pastors. Pastors are affected the same way as everyone else due to sin and therefore they are attempting to help guide people when they themselves are sinful. As stated by Entwistle (2015), “if we understand that all of what God created was good, then we must avoid creating an artificial separation between that which is sacred and that is secular” (p. 11). God is the author is everything and through His grace and mercy individuals were led to start looking at wounded individuals and attempting to find ways to help them through their issues. If we overlook the connection between the two we miss a huge piece of the puzzle. When thinking about how theology and psychology can benefit each other it has opined that “the limitations of psychology and theology alone in explaining spiritual experiences suggest that both are needed in order to provide a more complete account of experiences of relationship with God” (Miner & Dowson, 2012, p. 59). The idea that God reveals what he wants us to know is at play here but ultimately, he will allow us to understand people so there should not be an issue between the two.
My worldview affects my answer because I have seen how injured soldiers could benefit both from the faith and from psychology. There were things that greatly benefitted from the chaplain, but the pastors lacked a certain level of training that the psychologist could provide. When the chaplains and psychologists collaborated, the soldiers made great strides.
The quote from Jay Adam essentially says that humans cannot help humans heal because of the results of the fall. However, he does not implicate how pastors are any different. Using his statement, he is attempting to help someone so it almost a contradiction. I think that the allies’ model is the best because the two fields are working together for the betterment of the people instead of being at odds and causing unnecessary rifts.
The best argument I can propose for attempting to integrate theology and psychology is “why does there have to be a split? If psychology looks for strengths and sources of support for individuals why disregard the individual’s faith? If an individual is struggling even after seeking help from the holy spirit, why not allow the medicine to help out some? We seek out doctors for physical illness and they may consult with others to provide a holistic approach to treatment, why not treat the soul and mind the same?” My argument is most accurately summed up by Hawkins and Clinton (2015) who state, “a holistic focus demands we attend to biological, psychological, social, and spiritual factors when conducting assessment and treatment” (p. 20).
Entwistle, D. N. (2015). Integrative approaches to psychology and Christianity: An introduction to worldview issues, philosophical foundations, and models of integration (3rd ed.). Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock Publishers. ISBN: 9781498223485.
Hawkins, R., & Clinton, T. (2015). The new Christian counselor: A fresh biblical & transformational approach. Eugene, OR: Harvest House. ISBN: 9780736943543.
Miner, M., & Dowson, M. (2012). Spiritual experiences reconsider: a relational approach to the integration of psychology and theology. Journal of Psychology and Theology, 40(1), 55+. Retrieved from https://link-gale-com.ezproxy.liberty.edu/apps/doc/A288980652/ITOF?u=vic_liberty&sid=ITOF&xid=11325ec2
Amanda Post: Pastor, thank you for coming to me regarding this matter of the integration of psychology and theology. While I agree that our problems may have a spiritual source and consequentially, a faith-based response, psychology offers a deeper insight to the human experience that we cannot deny. As I have studied at Liberty University, textbooks used in several courses have shown great insight of integration of the two philosophies. Our worldviews help us to determine how we believe theology and psychology integrate, or if they remain separated (Entwistle, 2015). With the Allies model worldview, Entwistle (2015) describes how theology and psychology work as collaborators in understanding the human condition, which includes the spiritual experience and the current understating how to human mind works. The focus remains on God’s sovereignty and uses both philosophies in tandem rather than one superseding the other (Entwistle, 2015). It is more of a holistic approach, seeking to unite the truths from both areas of discipline (Entwistle, 2015). It does not idolize psychology, nor theology, but recognizes that God has created both for man to use to understand how to seek the truth and help all people.
While I agree with Adam’s that we are all sinners studying other sinners, I do believe this ideology is flawed. His belief derived from the lack of knowledge while beginning to serve in ministry and having to make impromptu decisions in counseling (Entwistle, 2015). I do not believe that thinking of others with the intention of helping others understand the root of their psychological problems is a sinful act. In fact, I believe counseling is holy work, as described by Hawkins and Clinton (2015). If sinners cannot help other sinners, pastors would not be needed in the church, as pastors are human and therefore sinners by nature. Furthermore, attributing psychology as secular, and therefore an enemy to theology, is ignoring God’s instruction to seek wisdom and understanding (Proverbs 4:5 New King James Version). When it comes to understanding the human condition, I believe psychology is as vital as the study of medicine.
Entwistle, D. N. (2015). Integrative approaches to psychology and Christianity: An introduction to worldview issues, philosophical foundations, and models of integration (3rd ed.). Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock Publishers.
Hawkins, R. E., & Clinton, T. E. (2015). The new Christian counselor. Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers.